REG. U.S. PAT. OFF.
FEEL-GOOD STORY OF THE YEAR:"Liberals squander all their resources attacking Bush because they are too stupid to realize he will never run for office again!"UNDER-REPORTED STORY OF THE YEAR:"Liberals have no new ideas on any issue, unless you count 'Bush Sucks' as a new idea. If you do, then liberals have a MILLION new ideas!"
The opposition attacks because they have no new ideas. Where have I heard that before? Let's see... thinking... late 90s... impeachment...spysmasher, I know who you are!You're James Carville!
Those goggles and that scarf never fooled me, Carville!
Spice-MasherPerhaps you didn't notice because you are too busy hating America, but George W. Bush didn't magically stop sucking just because he can no longer run for president again.He is still president.He is still a horrible embarramment to this nation.(And I seem to recall another president, quite recently as a matter of fact, who was hounded and criticized throughout his second term, went through impeachment hearings as I recall, even though he couldn't run again. But since he was a Democratic president, I'm sure you didn't have a problem with that. (Try to be a little consistent, just every once in a while, so I can have a little respect for your opinion.))And as for your claim that "liberals" (which I believe is conservative code for everyone who doesn't have his tongue up Cheney's ass) have no new ideas, you COULD (if you cared about America) ignore the talking points of the conservative media (otherwise known as the media) and investigate the Web sites of individual Democrats.Or you COULD just keep repeating conservative hate speech because that is so much easier.
"The opposition attacks because they have no new ideas. Where have I heard that before? Let's see... thinking... late 90s... impeachment."--------I'm not going to argue the merits of impeaching Clinton, but you're essentially saying "someone in the past did the same thing, so now it should not be challenged." But if it was wrong then, it's still wrong now. Are you OK with your leaders doing the wrong thing? Yes, you are, because when it comes to bashing Bush, for liberals, there IS no wrong thing. Facts, logic... all out the window. For liberals, there IS no wrong way to bash Bush!
Hoosier X--If you cared about America, you'd ignore the talking points of the liberal media and investigate the Web sites of individual Republicans. Or, you COULD just keep bashing Bush, because that is so much easier.
So now, instead of long cut-and-paste screeds, Spysmasher's debating skills have "risen" to the level of "I know you are, but what am I?"Well done.
Sorry I can't add as much as YOUR golden comments here do. That last one was pure genius.
"If you cared about America, you'd ignore the talking points of the liberal media"Spysmasher, I assume the irony is lost on you that the term "liberal media" itself is nothing but a talking point of the right. As is framing political disagreements in terms of whether one cares about America, is betraying America, etc. As Samuel Johnson said, "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel"--which is why so many dead-ender Bush cultists defend their man's horrible decisions by accusing critics of disloyalty or treason. Of course, in your minds, it *is* treason, because as Bush has been saying all along, through his "unitary executive" theory and secret power grabs, he is the state. To his mind, his political interest and the interest of the country are one and the same. Therefore, anyone who opposes him politically is, ipso facto, disloyal to the nation. I can't think of a less American sentiment than that. So, it turns my stomach to be lectured on caring about America by proto-fascist brown-shirt wannabes ready to burn the U.S. Constitution out of fear of Islamic terrorists, liberals, immigrants and their own shadows. It is well past time for right-wing extremists to slink back to the rocks they hid under until 1994 or so. Your guys had their chance to run the world and completely botched the job. All the grand economic and foreign policy schemes cooked up in conservative think tanks collapsed on first contact with reality, while many of the GOP crusaders for integrity have been caught with their hands in the till and increasingly, with other parts in 12-year-old girls.(Although I hear Bush specifically authorized the current wave of Republican child molestation as being in the "public interest", so it's legal.)
-------Cole Odell said: "... the term "liberal media" itself is nothing but a talking point of the right."-------The NY Times is not liberal? CBS News is not liberal? Time magazine is not liberal? Dan Rather is not liberal? I could go on and on and on and on, but the bottom line is the liberals own print, TV and Hollywood, conservatives own only talk radio and a few shows on FOX News. You are clearly not living in the real world, and the statement quoted above is the proof. Case closed.
"the bottom line is the liberals own print, TV and Hollywood, conservatives own only talk radio and a few shows on FOX News. "If you want to talk about who actually *owns* the media, I think you'll find that a sizable majority of the owners vote Republican. These are big businesses that defer to the bosses and moneymen in almost every case. Check out Media Matters' tally of conservative vs. liberal speakers on their news shows, and then tell me about TV news' liberal bias. Conservatives have worked the refs so effectively for so long that most major media today bend over backwards to avoid any hint of "liberal bias". If you saw *anyone* on TV or in the paper as far to the left as most of the supposedly respectable conservatives junking up the establishment airwaves and column inches, your head would explode.Of course, I'm talking to someone willing to assert that only a "few shows" on Fox News are conservative, so I can see Doc Magnus needs to overhaul your Responsometer.You seem to have trouble differentiating a paper from its editorial page. Yes, the NYT editorial page is generally liberal--but the paper's reporting really can't be accused of that. The Washington Post, another of the papers always called "liberal" because of their Watergate coverage 30+ years ago, under Fred Hiatt has often been dementedly pro-war and pro-Bush in its editorial pages, routinely ignoring facts printed in the news sections of its own paper. But there's the rub for Bushbots--you think the facts themselves are left-wing, biased agianst you. When Bush's pipedreams invariably fail, reporters who point that out are, by definition, liberal.By the way, if you knew anything about the history of Time magazine and Henry Luce, you certainly wouldn't call them liberal--and it didn't end with Luce's departure as editor-in-chief in 1964. Check their glowing profile of Ann Coulter just last year.
Wow, you have totally convinced me. What was I thinking to say Time magazine was liberal? It's obvious from their numerous positive stories on Bush and the GOP that they are card-carrying members of the vast right-wing conspiracy! From now on I will cancel my subscription to National Review, and buy ONLY Time magazine, the authentic voice of American Conservatism. Thanks for the great and unbiased info!
Oh, and the idea that "the NYT editorial page is generally liberal--but the paper's reporting really can't be accused of that" is SO FUNNY! Honestly... you don't really believe that nonsense, do you? Next will you explain to me that Pravda was secretly pro-America? Reality calling. You -- not answering.
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